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spiffiness
August 27, 2008, 5:26pm Report to Moderator
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I am sure 660 and 770 were all over the breaking news of the crane vs. train situation this morning on air.  But if it happened around 10 AM, one must wonder where it is on the 660News website?  As of 12:20, the 660News front page is still not updated.  Maybe I need to subscribe to breaking news alerts?  Oh, wait a moment, there it is under the National headlines...



I like the Canadian Press attribution to CHQR...nice.




For the record, here's the CHQR coverage:
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Old Unreliable
August 28, 2008, 1:27am Report to Moderator
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Classy.
Someone's head at Rogers central should roll for that one.  How do you let something like that slip? I'm sorry but if you're going to try to market yourself as a station "keeping you in the loop" and "breaking news first" you gotta back it up.
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TheWave
August 28, 2008, 7:42am Report to Moderator

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Hmm, weird...I say weird because it took me all of thirty seconds to look in the archives to find the story on the C-train accident (under "Calgary") that was posted at 10:22 AM, when the accident itself happened around 10:15. (There were no pictures, I grant you that.) Perhaps you just missed it in your  neverending pursuit of criticism?
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spiffiness
August 28, 2008, 12:17pm Report to Moderator
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I didn't hear about the accident until just after 11:30.  I was listening to News1130 at the time - they made it breaking news, so me and my colleagues went to the 660News website.  Nothing on the front page...the screen grabs above were taken shortly after 12.  Why isn't it leading 660's front page until 12:30?  It's not showing under 'Calgary' headlines from my screengrab.  I checked your site on two different connections, and got the same thing -- even after a refresh.

And about the archived story that you're referring to TheWave: there is no way that timestamp can be accurate for the amount of detail in the story.  What I am to surmise from the story below is that 660News had all those details only 8 minutes after the accident?  Even before some of the elements in the story occurred?  Maybe the commercial 660 airs is true, "Any sooner and we'd be psychic..."

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IsThisThingOn
August 28, 2008, 1:38pm Report to Moderator
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Maybe it's just a brilliant programming decision! Perhaps David Spence is predicting weather AND news. I hear that starting next week, the Amazing Kreskin will be predicting traffic as much as 3 days in advance.
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mossyfeet
August 28, 2008, 6:13pm Report to Moderator
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Hmm, weird...I say weird because it took me all of thirty seconds to look in the archives to find the story on the C-train accident (under "Calgary") that was posted at 10:22 AM, when the accident itself happened around 10:15. (There were no pictures, I grant you that.) Perhaps you just missed it in your  neverending pursuit of criticism?


I'll say it's weird.  If they had it at 10:22, where was it in their 10:30 news cast?  CBC and AM770 both led with it; it was nowhere in the first 5 minutes of the 660 cast.  As well, two reporters who were at at the scene did not see 660's reporter arrive until almost 11:30.   Maybe there are others here who have better information???  

However, those who think heads should roll for the appearance of the CHQR attribution on the National story are showing their ignorance.  The national headlines for private radio (not including CBC) are grabbed automagically by the website back end server and inserted into the database--likely an RSS feed or something along those lines.  Local editors would have no control, maybe even no knowledge the attribution was there and certainly no (easy) way to remove it.  

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80sBoy
August 28, 2008, 7:14pm Report to Moderator
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Spiffiness, your history of 660News-bashing is well documented, and while there was obvuiously a problem and a mistake by one or more individuals in regards to the web page at 660, why aren't you complaining about QR's jumping the gun on a murder this morning? At 11:00 they led with a murder in motel village, but it turned out to be just a stabbing.

I believe the 660 quote on that story was that police said he was upright and talking to the officer.

You claim to be unbiased, and don't work for, nor have friends who work for, the mighty QR, yet you seem to miss all the QR mistakes, while relishing and jumping all over any 660News misdeeds.

So, where's your indignation on that blatantly irresponsible journalism on QR's part?
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misinformation
August 29, 2008, 4:24am Report to Moderator
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"80's boy says "Spiffiness, your history of 660News-bashing is well documented, and while there was obvuiously a problem and a mistake by one or more individuals in regards to the web page at 660, why aren't you complaining about QR's jumping the gun on a murder this morning? At 11:00 they led with a murder in motel village, but it turned out to be just a stabbing."


I enjoy radio miscues as much as the next person, however when you check the audio vault feature on chqr's website, the news announcer says, "he's being taken to hospital, his condition under continuing assessment".   obviously you don't take someone who's been murdered to hospital.  so 80'sboy, you shouldn't criticize others when the evidence is there to prove you're not being truthful.
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oldpro
August 29, 2008, 11:51am Report to Moderator
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Was on 660's web this morning...no news story yet on The results of a meeting yesterday between Calgary's Mayor and AB Premiere re:money for Calgary Gang Violence?! They had it on the air when I listened to them but it's not on their web? I checked QR77 and yes it was there.
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80sBoy
August 29, 2008, 12:04pm Report to Moderator
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How can he be murdered and taken to hospital at the same time?
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80sBoy
August 29, 2008, 1:53pm Report to Moderator
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Funny how the 11am vault cast starts at the end of the story in question, which was a good 2 minutes in, and leaves out whether they said murder or not. And I suppose there is NO WAY they went back and edited IT AT ALL
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Lawrence
August 29, 2008, 2:15pm Report to Moderator
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No - I doubt they edited the archives.  More likely its at the end of the 10 AM hour - the QR hour marker must be off by a few minutes.  

As for the train - maybe 660 wasn't monitoring QR right then - and just missed it.  Stuff happens.  Sometimes its embarrassing stuff.  Why would a head roll at headquarters?
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JimDandy
August 29, 2008, 6:16pm Report to Moderator
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Was on 660's web this morning...no news story yet on The results of a meeting yesterday between Calgary's Mayor and AB Premiere re:money for Calgary Gang Violence?! They had it on the air when I listened to them but it's not on their web? I checked QR77 and yes it was there.


Oldpro -- you are obviously NOT a pro when it comes to technology, more specifically, reading websites.

I was anxious to hear what the outcome of that meeting was, so I was constantly checking news websites while I was at work. I found the story on 660's website at 5pm... for more details I went to the Herald's site, then QR, then CTV Calgary... and none of them had it at 5pm.. except 660.

And it's still on there... "Premier Stelmach denies Bronconnier's request for $25 million"
you just have to click on "MORE CALGARY".

Like I mentioned before "Pro", perhaps you could use a refresher course when it comes to navigating websites... or just reading in general.
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oldpro
August 30, 2008, 3:39am Report to Moderator
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Premier Stelmach denies Bronconnier's request for $25 million

August 28, 2008 - 9:06 am
By: 660News Staff

Premier Ed Stelmach has denied Mayor Bronconnier's request for more provincial funding, to help battle gang violence in Calgary. During today's meeting at McDougall Centre, Mayor Bronconnier asked ...


Is this what you mean! Well Jim Dandy ...  the meeting with the Mayor and Stelmech was held on THURSDAY AUG 28th... in the afternoon. MY GOD!!! 660  was so ahead of the game they must of predicted it. OH and just in case you think the meeting was a different time...here is the clip from the herald...

Calgary police Chief Rick Hanson and Mayor Dave Bronconnier leave the province's McDougall Centre after their meeting with Premier Ed Stelmach on Thursday afternoon to seek $25 million to pay for 200 more police officers for the city.
Ted Rhodes, Calgary Herald
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TheWave
August 30, 2008, 6:54am Report to Moderator

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I'm assuming someone simply wrote "am" rather than "pm", a simple error...

Oh, wait, I forgot! I'm on the site where any mistake than anyone at 660 News makes ever is pounced upon like a bear on a salmon as if it's the only error any radio station has ever made. Sorry, my mistake!
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