Agreed. Edmonton in my opinion is in great shape right now, especially in all areas rock. Since K97's flip I'm listening to that station a lot more. Altough Loch was a tough loss Phil and Gruff were great additions. I think Sonic is the most solid modern rock station in Canada, Garner is unreal. The most relatable host for his target I've ever listened to. I podcast his show on a daily basis. Fearless is a magician with his microphone. The fact he can totally dismantle someone on the phone and still make them feel good is nearly impossible, but it's a staple in his show, and I can't wait for him to turn on the mic. Danaye on the bear is clutch too, sounds to me like she really loves being there which makes it easy to love listening. Yukon's big yap is poetic/tight/controversial/consistent, couldn't ask for more.
I look forward to trips to Edmonton cause every time slot I end up there, there's someone on that I learn something from.
On one hand, the recent depletion of and lack of talent makes me sick every time I flip through one of their channels.
Do you do anything BUT hate on Corus? I don't think I've ever read you say anything but (paraphrasing) "Corus sucks." Maybe you should broaden your horizons. Get a hobby, take up a sport, join a club...do something with your life!
There's some great talent in Edmonton. In a lot of Canadian markets. They're just not all on the same station like the "good ol' days" where there were 1, 2, 3 games in town. There's something like 20 in Edmonton these days. Much like a sports league that expands too big too fast, it takes time and a good farm system to develop the next round of stars. Sadly for Radio the expansion happened right around the technological revolution that digitized the medium and brought in voicetracking while consolidation to shareholder driven companies meant cuts across the board, rather than investment and foresight to seek out and develop their next round of stars. Capital snagged Rob and Audie, great move. Corus runs some overnight programming, once again, great move provided there is guidance and airchecks given to them. A syndicated evening show I feel is a great waste of a prime development slot, but if you're going to raze Corus from running Casey Clarke, you should be crucifying Astral from parachuting Seacrest into Vibe Calgary's midday show, or running John Tesh on EZ Rock evenings.
Edmonton is moving into being more and more of a 24 hour economy. I'm waiting for the day that somebody decides it's not worth the cash to sink money into a morning show to compete for a crowded daypart, concedes it, and drops solid cash into a drive or evening shift and properly builds and sells the station around that concept.
I have no doubts that Casey is a nice guy, but he's taking jobs away from actual people,
Are you implying that he is not an actual person?
Anyway, the implementation is different on the Corus and Newcap stations. Corus, at least CISN-FM, plays ads during the advertisement slots during the Casey Clarke show, while the Newcap stations play more music during those.
I usually couldn't care less about CISN, but with the Newcap stations switching to FM and basically reducing their coverage area that way, I kinda have to figure out what my options are.
I don't just hate on-air talent, I just hate it when it's kind of irrelevant. The CKGY 'Afternoon Drive' people are pretty good. However, with CISN and their late nights, there isn't much to talk about, and if said announcer isn't going to give info on upcoming songs or recent played songs, then it's just random. As opposed to a syndicated show, I don't see much difference at this point - you're not getting any more local focus from it anyway.
For my money, CISN and CFCW are Edmonton's two best radio stations. They're both country, they have talented and intelligent people, and they know their audience. I prefer CFCW's morning show, CISN at other times during the day, CFCW at nights when I'm listening to local radio.
CISN and CFCW are different types of country though, and have different audiences.
Also, CFCW has issues with narrowly limiting their audio bandwidth for some reason, but that is not at all a suggestion to switch to FM. Just make use of all the AM bandwidth. I thought it was supposed to be C-QUAM anyway.
Well, I've never met him...I suppose there's a chance that he's some sort of cyborg.
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...The CKGY 'Afternoon Drive' people are pretty good...
Really? See, now, Tim's a good guy and all, but I've listened to that show a few times and I was half-asleep about 3 breaks in. That man has ZERO emotion in his voice and even less energy. Again, he's a great guy, but he does not sound like he enjoys his job one iota.
I don't just hate on-air talent, I just hate it when it's kind of irrelevant. The CKGY 'Afternoon Drive' people are pretty good. However, with CISN and their late nights, there isn't much to talk about, and if said announcer isn't going to give info on upcoming songs or recent played songs, then it's just random. As opposed to a syndicated show, I don't see much difference at this point - you're not getting any more local focus from it anyway.
Are you expecting radio magic at 3 am? A lot of people have used that overnight CISN slot as a starting point or stepping stone in thier careers...myself included. Being able to cut your teeth or hone your skills at the same time as being able to put "Major Market Experience" on your resume is invaluable. We're always hearing about how voicetracking is killing the training ground shifts for radio's future...I think we should be celebrating stations who keep live announcers in low-revenue generating dayparts.
Do you do anything BUT hate on Corus? I don't think I've ever read you say anything but (paraphrasing) "Corus sucks." Maybe you should broaden your horizons. Get a hobby, take up a sport, join a club...do something with your life!
Last time I checked, we weren't in frikkin' Communist Russia.
We all are entitled to opinions on this board and mine is that Corus seems to either be losing or not acquiring any good calibre talent. Until that happens I will continue to hold that opinion. Unless you would rather us hold hands and sing kumbaya and try to fool ourselves into believing they have real major market talent in Edmonton.
Other words. (that are related to the previous words)
I listen during the day a lot and Todd "the God" James is always putting on a clinic. He's tighter than other things that are very tight, such as a budget at Corus. (ha ha funny joke) Plus his content is always relevant. In the sense it's relevant to his listeners. Not to his life. I hear people talk about being a "real" person on air.
Real to who?
Us as radio people? Or the guy/girl driving his truck/car to the job site/office/university/daycare/(exotic)massage parlour?
Even from an inside radio standpoint he's a formatics machine. Everything we always learned was important is there. Time, temp, weather in general, local content, artist info, station events, it's all there, it's all quick and it all works. I'm telling ya, Todd is the best day-time jock in the city. If you disagree I will fight you in the street with a kitten as my only weapon!
Still though there's loads of names missing on this list of fave city jocks.
Matt an Jake . . . hello?
But it really is refreshing to hear some positive talk on here.
Are you expecting radio magic at 3 am? A lot of people have used that overnight CISN slot as a starting point or stepping stone in thier careers...myself included. Being able to cut your teeth or hone your skills at the same time as being able to put "Major Market Experience" on your resume is invaluable. We're always hearing about how voicetracking is killing the training ground shifts for radio's future...I think we should be celebrating stations who keep live announcers in low-revenue generating dayparts.
Nope, I'm not, and I'm not saying that Corus needs to change anything - I'm making a comparison to what Newcap does, and stating my opinion that I like their small-town small(er)-market stations better. Either there is no one there and the computer is running everything, or they do have someone there, but the announcer breaks in every 7 or so songs, instead of every 2. (Append comment about advertising from earlier.)
I understand how the lack of real announcers and the replacement of people with automation is bad for people in the industry (which includes many people here) but at the same time, many (not all) people on the listener end either prefer computer automation (because it keeps musical content moving along with minimal interruption) or simply couldn't care less.
(On the other hand, all-news stations should have live staff all the time, even at night.)
Todd is the best day-time jock in the city. If you disagree I will fight you in the street with a kitten as my only weapon!
a laser kitten? coincidentally I have just found myself in the possession of a laser puppy... alas I have no drive to disagree with you... if only.. it may have become one of the best pieces of SNL plagourism ever.
Even with all the NewCap flips, I'll still take Edmonton's talent over Calgary's any day.
Most people can fall behind "Oh, it's Alberta, everyone wants to go there" to compare Edmonton to any other market, but it's astounding how far ahead Edmonton radio is over their southern cousin.
Also, credit has to go to their scouting; being able to snag some of these gems from obscurity and develop the talent, Zimmerman especially, I'd have to say Edmonton has some cutting edge material for sure.
As for Sonic being the best modern rock in the country, Garner is king of mornings for sure, but in every other day part, Edge 102 still wins. Josie Dye can have my babies anytime...
As for Sonic being the best modern rock in the country, Garner is king of mornings for sure, but in every other day part, Edge 102 still wins. Josie Dye can have my babies anytime...
Lagertape, I'll fight you with a kitten for that comment
Sonic jocks in all dayparts crush Canada's most over rated rocker, The Edge in Toronto. Seriously, cue up Sonic on teh internets and listen to The Edge, and it should be pretty clear that Sonic is the superior modern rocker. Josie is cute... so I'll concede you the baby making.
i believe radio (announcer) mediocrity is subjective... especially in a major market.
overnights are different, though. usually someone is there because no one else is in that time slot. they should be doing "more." they should risk things. they're probably not getting paid. they really want to be there and be more. i think maybe too often the person there is forgotten about and maybe not always reeled in and shown direction. in any case, i don't always like the person talking on the radio (any station) at 4 in the morning, but i do appreciate what and why they're doing it.
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