Quoted from binzer

"Scudmonkey, you would still might have the midday gig if you didn't suck and your attitude wasn't a cancer."


Yeah, you're probably right. Scudmonkey should've had a better attitude, so he could stay in that hell froze over Saskatoon, rather than get gig he has in beautiful Victoria doing middays at a station in "Canada's California" and not owned by Elmer.

He's probably still crying about it. Get real. I've known the Scudster for years, and if he had a bad attitude about the place, then it must be an inherantly bad place.
You're talking about a broadcaster who has done well in both Calgary, Edmonton, and now Victoria. I'm sure he could do well in butt-f*ck Saskatchewan if the station wasn't just "wrong."

He's bitching about a gig in Saskatoon...when he's been in bigger centers? Is he mad?
Saskatoon is a dive. The radio is brutal there. The djs are inexperienced..or have been around since the early 90s (or earlier). The point is this. Many, many opportunities are given to 'kids that don't deserve it'..radio is not alone in this. If the kid fails, you'll say "I told you so...". Will you congratulate the guy if he succeeds? I highly doubt it, because then you'll say that his daddy helped him along. This kid is in a lose/lose situation.

Move along. If you want to succeed you will. Don't worry about how the other guy got his break, because..really..aren't you just looking for your big break to fall into your lap too? Unfortunately, some of us won't get our parent's help to be successful in this world..you're not alone. But, the prize at the top is greater if you work your ass off and accomplish what you set out to do, if you do it yourself.

Consider it a blessing you don't have people handing you your successes. You would NEVER learn to appreciate them.

Quoted from El Gallo

There's also a difference between who you know and who your daddy is.

So out of curiousity, do you also have a hate on for Gwyneth Paltrow?  How about Carrie Fisher, Kiefer Sutherland, Kate Hudson, Angelina Jolie, Angelica Huston, Michael Douglas, Lenny Kravitz, Liv Tyler, and Jamie Lee Curtis?

I’m not trying to make any comparisons, but I will say that who your parents are doesn’t make you a good jock, but it doesn’t make you a bad jock either.  It’s toxic attitudes like this that pollute the industry and make it the catty shit show that it can be sometimes.  If the kid has no talent then it will catch up to him and the company, buts its unfair just to assume he's not good.

wow, tough group. I have no problem with Pat getting the job. I wish my dad had been in the industry. I have hung out with Pat for a smoke on many occasions. He's a good guy.  (I should also add that when i entered this industry, I was told first and foremost to forget what i'd been taught and listen to what i was now being told. So coming from a broadcast school gives you some basic skills and insight into the industry, but each PD has his own thoughts on what's right for his station.)
Back to Pat. When you see people who have given years to their craft, and someone is elevated while their parent is in the top position, moral takes a hit. I would think that daddy might have used his influence in the industry and had his son placed in a small staion that most cut their teeth. Learn the craft under someone other than your family. I think Pat would learn a ton more going it alone than in the current situation.

Quoted from binzer

"Scudmonkey, you would still might have the midday gig if you didn't suck and your attitude wasn't a cancer."


Yeah, you're probably right. Scudmonkey should've had a better attitude, so he could stay in that hell froze over Saskatoon, rather than get gig he has in beautiful Victoria doing middays at a station in "Canada's California" and not owned by Elmer.

He's probably still crying about it. Get real. I've known the Scudster for years, and if he had a bad attitude about the place, then it must be an inherantly bad place.
You're talking about a broadcaster who has done well in both Calgary, Edmonton, and now Victoria. I'm sure he could do well in butt-f*ck Saskatchewan if the station wasn't just "wrong."

Here here,

Any station would be so lucky to have a talent like Scudmonkey on board...this guys attitude on and off the mic should be studied and emulated in every jock's playbook from coast to coast...which just reflects what's so very, very wrong with that station in toontown, that would let someone of that caliber go...my guess would be to protect over-inflated egos...or make room for inexperienced off-spring....or both.....in any case, good for you Scudmonkey!...and congrats on a great spring book in an actual market!

Quoted from rocknradio

So out of curiousity, do you also have a hate on for Gwyneth Paltrow?  How about Carrie Fisher, Kiefer Sutherland, Kate Hudson, Angelina Jolie, Angelica Huston, Michael Douglas, Lenny Kravitz, Liv Tyler, and Jamie Lee Curtis?

I’m not trying to make any comparisons, but I will say that who your parents are doesn’t make you a good jock, but it doesn’t make you a bad jock either.  It’s toxic attitudes like this that pollute the industry and make it the catty shit show that it can be sometimes.  If the kid has no talent then it will catch up to him and the company, buts its unfair just to assume he's not good.

Funny! Love the references....

I have to agree with Scudmonkey here, the kid could probably make a go of it, but he's got to get out from under his daddy's wing...and ordinarily I'd say you're right about life catching up to him, but this market's an anomily....which I guess is why I made this observation in the first place....until it gets a good shake up (and time will tell if Harvard's new station can do it) the jocks there who've never been outside the bubble will never know the thrill of competition...

...and I like Gwyneth Paltrow, don't like Carrie Fisher (post Star Wars), Love Kiefer Sutherland (in a manly '24' kinda way), love Kate Hudson, lust Angelina Jolie, admire Angelica Huston, envy Michael Douglas, enjoy Lenny Kravitz, lust Liv Tyler (but don't make her angry, you wouldn't like her when she's angry) and Jamie Lee Curtis just makes me hungry for dairy products.

So I guess the Forbes brothers don't deserve what they've achieved? Jim Waters did a pretty good job running CHUM. How many people have gotten jobs because their buddies with the PD or VP or whatever? You see this in every business. If they guy's good, he'll stick around, if he stinks, he'll be gone...

I have not heard the gent in question .. nor have I listened to much of Saskatoon's airwaves .. but it does not matter much whether this young man sounds like someone we want to listen to .. or he doesn't.  It does not matter whether the gig he now has is something that others aspire to ....
What matters most is how we do in the job that we have.  It is really commendable if we do well and demonstrate a good attitude and we help others at the same time .. but the only person we hurt through all of the 'sour grapes' being voiced in some of this thread is ourself as an individual.   If we are not doing something that we like .. it is time either to look elsewhere .. or look in the mirror .. and give your face a slap or have a good laugh (whichever the image looking back at you deserves) .. and get on with your life with an much-improved attitude.    If that's in radio .. you are entertaining others and that's great .. but if it is not in radio or other parts of the wacky world of broadcasting .. you are still benefitting others by what you do (as long as it is legal) .. and you are likely getting a fatter paycheque.

To be honest, it's been these kinds of deals that have plagued the Saskatoon market for years.

Hiring less qualified announcers who are connected to management rather than keeping the good, fresh talent.

I have never heard the person in question............ but you have to ask yourself this.Why would they hire a mid day person who will VT her mid day shift and co-host afternoons with the guy?They must feel he needs some kinda help with his show!

makes you go hmmmmmmmmm

hey scudmonkey were you happy at any station you worked? I'm not sayin I'm just saying (lol)

Quoted from smalmrket4life

Why would they hire a mid day person who will VT her mid day shift and co-host afternoons with the guy?They must feel he needs some kinda help with his show!

That may be the most ignorant thing I've ever read.  Drive show teams are popping up everywhere.  It's hardly a reflection on the jocks talent.

wow Rocknradio you must not read alot of stuff if what I wrote is the most Ignorant thing you have ever read. Maybe read a book  or two....... stop reading all the crap on the internet and maybe you 'll be able read some more ignorant stuff.Afternoon drive team are popping up everywhere?? really where? Morning teams are everywhere but a drive team? heard of a couple maybe you can enlighten all us with your wisdom of all the afternoon drive teams that abound everywhere!!

To name a few:

Jaxon and Sandra at The Beat Vancouver
Todd and Karen at The Fox Vancouver
Crash and Mars at Z99 Regina
Chad and Tim at Rock 102 Saskatoon
Lewis and Jay at Power 97 Winnipeg
Pete and Adriane at KX96 Oshawa

Quoted from rocknradio

To name a few:

Jaxon and Sandra at The Beat Vancouver
Todd and Karen at The Fox Vancouver
Crash and Mars at Z99 Regina
Chad and Tim at Rock 102 Saskatoon
Lewis and Jay at Power 97 Winnipeg
Pete and Adriane at KX96 Oshawa

there's no argument drive teams are in play. i've heard none of the shows listed so i can't really say if a team is worthwhile. what are the ratings like in markets with drive teams compared to solo? do they work or do they work as band-aids for each other? i only see a couple of real major markets listed there which leads me to think teams aren't all that common in major markets. maybe that's the way those stations help develop talent... or enhance it.

i still think - experience and teams aside, if you're a fit for the position, you're a fit for the position. not everyone fits into the rogers questionnaire model of hiring... thank goodness  

wow you named 6, 4 of which are major market radio the others smaller/med. One right in Saskatoon you said they were popping up everywhere man................. come on where else in a market the size of Toontown?You must be in the know .............. or did it take you that long to look them up on the internet? Couldn't find any more?I mean if your going to flame me man make sure you got your facts straight dude before you go spouting off.I never said the Kid didn't have talent I plainly stated the facts I had never head him........... but to hire a unknown to work with him has to make you ask questions.Is there going to be chemistry?Why make that move right now? Maybe instead of putting your head in the sand and saying crap like flaming me ask yourself those question.What are you the kids Dad or something you seem to be defending him to the hilt.I personally couldn't care less that market dosen't affect me and you deceided to flame.........the only reason I responded is cause I know the person moving there to take on the mid day duties and co-host and this young lady has talent.............So I know how good she is and know for a fact she could do the gig by herself in a heart beat.Any ways that's my .25 cents flame on again...........lol

Quoted from smalmrket4life

wow you named 6, 4 of which are major market radio the others smaller/med. One right in Saskatoon you said they were popping up everywhere man................. come on where else in a market the size of Toontown?You must be in the know .............. or did it take you that long to look them up on the internet? Couldn't find any more?I mean if your going to flame me man make sure you got your facts straight dude before you go spouting off.I never said the Kid didn't have talent I plainly stated the facts I had never head him........... but to hire a unknown to work with him has to make you ask questions.Is there going to be chemistry?Why make that move right now? Maybe instead of putting your head in the sand and saying crap like flaming me ask yourself those question.What are you the kids Dad or something you seem to be defending him to the hilt.I personally couldn't care less that market dosen't affect me and you deceided to flame.........the only reason I responded is cause I know the person moving there to take on the mid day duties and co-host and this young lady has talent.............So I know how good she is and know for a fact she could do the gig by herself in a heart beat.Any ways that's my .25 cents flame on again...........lol

Woah!  You're a defensive one, aren't you?  Must have a lot of time on your hands in Swift Current.  Good to see you're still a class act.