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Skittles
June 10, 2008, 3:42am Report to Moderator
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Hahahaha, CBC morons.


That's totally sums it up!!
There are so many stupid moves the CBC has made over the past few years.
They pissed off curling fans two seasons in a row (and those are people you don't want to mess with) Last season they cut out of an Eskimos game I believe to play a movie, I think something similar also happened during a Riders or Stamps game. After this summer they no longer hold the rights to the Olympics.
Keep diggin' that hole CBC... keep diggin'
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Kahuna
June 10, 2008, 5:12am Report to Moderator

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I'm already working on my entry to the new theme contest... da tat dum dad ceeb dum dum... then repeat....
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farley
June 10, 2008, 5:12am Report to Moderator
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Perhaps the most disturbing part of all this is the blatant self-promotion performed by TSN today.

SportsCentre is expected to provide at least some journalistic integrity.  Instead the top story on SC plays the entire song twice through while discussing their own greatness for "saving" the song (how do you SAVE a song?) and advetising yet again they have an outstanding NHL on TSN deal.

Pathetic.
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Airchecker
June 10, 2008, 5:54am Report to Moderator

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I would assume anyone could run the music if they paid the artist. CBC could still play it if they pay a fee. Now it was CBC who made the music popular. CBC does not want to do buisness with someone who is suing them. Either the artist is being unreasonable in her request for monies. I understand CBC will pay $500 per night. Hard to set a value on the amount she should be paid. It's a cash cow for the rights holder.
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CRS
June 10, 2008, 6:14am Report to Moderator

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the one thing that WILL sound strange is hearing the music but no CBC staff announcer (is it still ex CFMI-er Bob Boving?)saying "Hockey Night In Canada, brought to you byyyyy".   TSN will have to use whatever it is they call their games....strange times ahead...


Local Radio OUT!!
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TommyD
June 10, 2008, 5:09pm Report to Moderator

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the one thing that WILL sound strange is hearing the music but no CBC staff announcer (is it still ex CFMI-er Bob Boving?)saying "Hockey Night In Canada, brought to you byyyyy".   TSN will have to use whatever it is they call their games....strange times ahead...


That's what I think.  It would be like running the theme from ABC's Wide World of Sports to intro a highlight show on NBC.  I think you'd almost feel embarrased.  

What do you think?


"always leave them wanting more"
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Poppa
June 10, 2008, 6:30pm Report to Moderator
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I concur with you folks 110%!!

a) I was sickened to watch TSN pat itself on the back for "saving" the song.  To be honest, if it's not going to be with HNIC, I think I'd rather see the song die. To see it with TSN is just *wrong* somehow, and seeing them rub one out over how great they are was irritating yesterday.

I like that comment about being embarassed...that sounds about right to me!! TSN thinks they've done some great service to the country and I'll bet most people are going "Ummmmmmmmmm....I dunno about this..."
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newsbeat
June 10, 2008, 6:34pm Report to Moderator

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SportsCentre is expected to provide at least some journalistic integrity.  Instead the top story on SC plays the entire song twice through while discussing their own greatness for "saving" the song (how do you SAVE a song?) and advetising yet again they have an outstanding NHL on TSN deal.

Pathetic.


CTV9 in Vancouver did the same thing during their sports cast. I was a little embarrassed for Pete.. He went on saying he should be writing lyrics for the song.

Shake your head for a minute, CTV.

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tvsound
June 10, 2008, 7:20pm Report to Moderator
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Face the facts.  This is 100% CBC's fault.  They decided to drop the theme.  They sent the press release saying that they gave up.  The song officially was released into free agency. If CTV didn't buy it, someone else would have swept in. It's too valuable to just sit in a music bin.  It's like having a top hockey player not being re-signed to your team. What? You want him to just never play the game again?  No, some other team will sign a deal and he'll play on.  Are you going fault the other team for signing the player?

If you had purchased full rights to such a famous piece of music.  Wouldn't you want to tell and play it to all your friends and say, I can play this when I want and where I want.

It's no screct that the CBC has been making HORRIBLE decisions in the last few years. They almost cut Ron McLean a few years ago remember? The theme will play on.  The theme stays in Canada. Change is inevitable.

Blame the CBC or blame the composer's agent for acting like Scott Boras. Don't fault the competition for making what they believe is an advantageous business decision.
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Poppa
June 10, 2008, 8:30pm Report to Moderator
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Here's where I think the flaw in your logic lies:

A star player becomes an FA, Team A doesn't pick him up, so Team B does and he lives to play another day and makes the team that much better.

With the song, I really don't believe it makes TSN better.  AFAIC, CBCs HNIC broadcasts are 10x better than any of TSNs broadcasts, and the song isn't going to change that.  The whole thing just seems really awkward now, and TSN is going to look kind of silly with that song as its intro.  Honestly, they would have been better to leave it alone and forge their own path because the song, regardless of what station it airs on, will ALWAYS be associated with CBC.  Nothing will ever change that.

What's being overlooked here is this: It's not the song itself that's iconic...it's the song's relationship with hockey on CBC on Saturday nights...coast to coast on the Mother Network, for all to see.
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June 10, 2008, 9:56pm Report to Moderator

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(...) and TSN is going to look kind of silly with that song as its intro.  Honestly, they would have been better to leave it alone and forge their own path because the song, regardless of what station it airs on, will ALWAYS be associated with CBC.  Nothing will ever change that.

What's being overlooked here is this: It's not the song itself that's iconic...it's the song's relationship with hockey on CBC on Saturday nights...coast to coast on the Mother Network, for all to see.


couldn't agree more Poppa.  It would be like Pepsi buying the rights tio an old Coke commercial, running the commercial and at the end saying "Pepsi!"  Bizarre.

The real opportunity for TSN was that the CBC had wounded themselves and they could use the chance to build their own product and introduce hockey fans to their style.

not only that, but if this board is any indication... most Canadian are going "blah blah CBC SUCKS!"

and TSN bought into that... hmmm good investment?


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Poppa
June 10, 2008, 10:18pm Report to Moderator
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Agreed...this was badly misplayed by CTV/TSN.  They would have been so much better off taking the high-road on this one.  Now, the only losers are the viewers...
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CRS
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this is the STOOOOOPIDEST thing to happen to television since Letterman's defection to CBS and NBC retaining the rights to his bits.  Couldn't do "Stupid Pet Tricks" and some of his other hallmark bits, had to rename Larry "Bud" Melman etc.  How bizarre would that have been if Conan O'Brian did those bits.  Maybe CTV can borrow the Disney vault and put the theme in there for like 10-20 years.  

I'm here all day, try the fish...


Local Radio OUT!!
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pave
June 11, 2008, 2:22am Report to Moderator
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"Yakety Sax" is good. However, the CBC might also do well with "Charlie Brown". ("Why's everybody always pickin' on me?")
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tvsound
June 11, 2008, 7:38am Report to Moderator
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I'm sorry, but I don't associate the song with the CBC. To me it's purely a hockey anthem, and I'm happy that it's still going to continue to be on a Canadian hockey program.  

I also associate the Roundball Rock track by John Tesh strictly with the NBA, but no one's heard that infamous music on tv in years because NBC lost the rights to the NBA to ABC.  You know how much it sucks not hearing this music ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fErMdMN-rGg )  when tuning into a basketball game? I would be ecstatic to hear that music introing the the Celtics/Lakers finals right now. ABC's theme is terrible.

If Fox lost the rights to their NFL theme, I'd have no problem with NBC snapping it up and putting their Sunday Night football crapfest song in the furnace

You don't hear Heavy Action or the Hank Williams Jr. "Are You Ready" song on ABC for Monday Night Football anymore. It's all on ESPN. Sure, the show went with it and both stations are the same company, but I don't hear many people complaining that they ruined 35 years of ABC tradition. Dennis Miller did that.


If CBC's claim that CTV bought the theme for $2.5 - $3 million is true, divide that by 33 million citizens. That's about 9 cents each. Wow, as a taxpayer I'd have reeeeeaaallly cried foul over less than a dime  . I would have thrown in a buck of my tax money to cover 9 others who don't watch hockey.  CBC dropped the ball and CTV picked it up and is gonna run with it.  They would've been stupid not to.
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