Winnipeggers are quite secure and happy, in fact, I'd go so far as to say that they feel superior to much of the rest of the country. I've worked in that market twice, and loved it. I didn't go in thinking it would be good the first time, but the people in Winnipeg know how to make their own fun.
That PD is a born and bred Winnipegger. To me the ad is clearly saying "if you live outside of Winnipeg and you have any doubts about it being a great place - then don't bother".
Winnipeg is pretty aware of it's reputation outside of the province and unlike Saskatchewan, don't really give a rag.
I thought that line was fresh and funny - braggy and confident. Unlike the regular bs sell job that you seem to like.
I don't know the guy. I don't know the station. Don't now the city. to me, THAT ad is the BS (its not the only one... I just thought it was funny on the day that read it, there was an article saying how scary Winnipeg is, a coiensedence). Because he has a weak job, he had to fill with weird frills and swagger.
I want to work for a company that is pro. I want the who, what, why, how much? I don't want to work for a "bragger" I want to work for a winner.
I'm afraid that you're the one who totally missed the point.
He's saying if you don't think you'd dig Wpg, then Wpg doesn't want you.
It's swagger and it's authentic and full of pride.
Sell the station and the market? Large markets don't need to do that, small markets do. I wanna feel good if I'm going small and real life stuff makes a difference.
Large markets - you have run through all of them in your head, and every jock has thought about what it would be like to work in each and has reasons to hope for one over the other. And we all know all about the stations in Toronto, Vancouver, and most of us are also familiar with Calgary, Edmonton and Winnipeg.
I think lessening the pool by one, in your case was a good decision. You don't get it.
Backpeddling on Flame's point of going from minimum wage in Vancouver to minimum wage in Winnipeg. The difference between working for peanuts here and in Winterpeg is you can afford to buy a home in the 'Peg. The stay-at-home broadcasters that graduate from BCIT and limit their "fishing net" to jobs in Metro Vancouver and toil away here for years while living at home or sharing a basement suite (coz that's all they afford) are missing the boat in terms of being a homeowner and a seasoned broadcaster.
Like others, I totally get the sarcasm in the Milkman posting. Being born and raised in Northern Ontario it's a culture you either embrace or don't bother applying. Pure and simple.
Saskatoon also has a vibrant theatre community, a river valley that is both beautiful and filled with activities. Should it rate ahead of Montreal? I don't know. I've spent very little time in Montreal, but I enjoyed my limited time in Quebec. Perhaps the survey is skewed, but preferring Montreal is not a reason to denigrate Saskatoon. Montreal is a great city- but it is also a more expensive place to live. I've lived all over Canada, big cities and smaller centers and I've loved all of them. How many 'world class' cities have you lived in? How do you define them? Or do you let other people define them for you? Have you actually lived in Saskatoon? On what basis are you forming your opinion?
dave
Saskatoon isn't exactly utopia. I've lived there, I like the praries....but I wouldn't be huffing enough glue to claim an edge to Saskatoon in comparing it to Montreal.
I'm afraid that you're the one who totally missed the point.
He's saying if you don't think you'd dig Wpg, then Wpg doesn't want you.
It's swagger and it's authentic and full of pride.
I think lessening the pool by one, in your case was a good decision. You don't get it.
you're cute. it looks his ad worked great. Tweedledum can apply and make $12/hr MAJOR market in Winnipeg and poor Flamethrower can sit out and be an unemployed/bitter/PSR
the main point of the entire thread... was thats its funny that even a Winnipegger can't excuse his town... it was supposed to be quirky. Look at the list of towns that are the "best" and "worst" to live in... its bizarre.
there was list of places today on CTV that have most expensive cities in the country to live... number one thru 4 were all BC metros... then Toronto. Cheapest... Thunderbay.
Might be expensive to live in BC... you better be offering more than $12/hr and an attidude to pry me away from the ocean.
I believe they call it "tongue in cheek". Everyone know's all of the stereotypical things about Winnipeg, minus 50, huge mosquitos, etc. The ad was playing on those stereotypes, IMO. And since when are there so many jobs in the Radio Business that a PD in a place like Winnipeg has to become a member of "tourism Winnipeg" to sell their city to prospective employees. If you see a job that you might like isn't the onus on you to research the area, cost of living, etc. By the way, you can find $10.00 an hour radio jobs in Vancouver as well. Go to Winnipeg and get two bucks more an hour and maybe even find a place to live.
the point is... "who is Hot 103 talking to when they place an ad in Milkman?"
Unemployed broadcasters? or employed broadcasters in top markets that *would* require a reason to leave?
As I said,.. I am not from Winnipeg, I don't know the the guy. In his ad copy he gave me an out.
"If you are unsure about Winnipeg, this job is not for you."
OK. the job is not for this employed broadcaster. End of story.
if the job had, " I am looking for the best, top dollar, great city send me you demo right away" then we could have a discussion.
Just bad copy... he was writing a national recruitment ad, not a bit for Winnipeggers. and if he was... maybe run the ad in the Winnipeg newspaper.
if I hurt YOUR feelings because Winnipeg is just darn bestest place on earth, then I am sorry... I didn't author the surey, some scientist did in Ottawa.
We all have hometowns and I am not retarded... I know that home is always the best place to live.
Saskatoon isn't exactly utopia. I've lived there, I like the praries....but I wouldn't be huffing enough glue to claim an edge to Saskatoon in comparing it to Montreal.
I don't believe I did that. Saskatoon is not utopia, but it's not the end of the world either. It's a nice place to live and work- brutal winters aside. Unfortunately, while the oil boom has pumped up the economy there, it's also made it a much more expensive place to shop for a house. I worked in radio in Winnipeg, as well, and if the business was still worth working in, I'd go back in again with no hesitation. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, radio is pretty much a mug's game now, no matter where you work.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, radio is pretty much a mug's game now, no matter where you work.
davel.
I'm sick of all you bitter idiots on this site. If you're out of radio, then MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. Quick lurking on industry websites, 'cause it's pathetic.
I'm sick of all you bitter idiots on this site. If you're out of radio, then MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. Quick lurking on industry websites, 'cause it's pathetic.
And do you consider the likes of Bruce Payne (see CHEK 6 post) among the bitter idiots too that should move on?!?! Yeah, all us pathetic people will leave the website so all you corporate lovin', pom-pom waving employees of Rogers, Corus, Astral, CHUM et al can continually "high-5" each other for how GREAT the corporations have made the radio 'biz?? I worked for 5 years under a corporate radio environment and, quite frankly, the monthly rah-rah sessions in the boardroom made me puke...well, ALMOST!
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I miss the point on that one, then again I'm not as eloquent and brainy as Pave 
