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Report: BC Place WILL get a Retractable Roof
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 What type of Roof will BC Place Stadium get?
A Fabric Retractable roof that opens (23 votes)
62.16%
Replacement of current bubble dome (8 votes)
21.62%
Roof with open hole in center (uncovered field) (6 votes)
16.22%
37 Votes Total Last vote May 17, 2008, 9:24pm by WolfBlitzer
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clearskies
April 22, 2008, 10:05am Report to Moderator
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For those who can't listen to it:

- two architectural firms in Vancouver working on the design

- the design will be more like Veltins Stadium and Commerzbabnk Arena in Germany

- preferred design is to have posts around the Stadium's perimeter to support the roof; that will allow events to carry on in the Stadium with little inconvenience to the Lions and trade show schedules
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clearskies
April 22, 2008, 1:25pm Report to Moderator
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'NW reports that no decision has been made yet.

However, new development: they were drilling INSIDE the Stadium also into the Stadium floor, so that indicates drainage is going in.
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clearskies
April 27, 2008, 7:35am Report to Moderator
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Cabinet meets Wednesday.   Drum roll please...
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FRED
April 27, 2008, 11:50am Report to Moderator
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It's all a big cover up.  I bet Mayor Sullivan is holding this up much like he's trying to drive the Whitecaps Stadium into the ground.

Sullivan is going to kill both stadiums if he gets his way.


You really have no clue what you're talking about.  Mayor Sullivan has nothing to do with BC place because it's a Provincial issue, and the Whitecaps stadium is being held up by the Federally regulated Port Authority.
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clearskies
April 28, 2008, 10:11am Report to Moderator
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This is wild !

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/c...0-a5ff0f237156

Alarm bells ring on BC Place retractable roof
Probably biggest gamble of 2010 Games racing against clock
Miro Cernetig, Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, April 28, 2008
Premier Gordon Campbell wants the retractable roof. So does David Podmore, the construction exec in charge of revamping BC Place Stadium for the Olympics. Hard to blame either of them; our stadium's current top looks like an old bedsheet left in the rain too long.

A new roof that can be opened to let that Olympic flame burn bright for 2010 and the sunshine in during a B.C. Lions game when it's not raining, is no doubt a desirable goal. It will add a whole new life, architectural profile and use (baseball or soccer, anyone?) to Vancouver's aging, domed stadium.

But. But. But.


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BC Place Stadium, seen here before damage was repaired, should have a new retractable roof in time for 2010 Games.
Steve Bosch, Vancouver Sun

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Font:****Putting up that retractable roof over BC Place has got to ring some alarms bells, too.

It is probably the biggest gamble of the 2010 Olympic Games: Get it done right, on time and Podmore gets the gold. Blow it, either through delays or the myriad of engineering complications that come with a $150-million to $200-million re-engineering job, and he's got an Olympic disaster on his hands.

In the international press, we'd go from being depicted as a city preparing a near flawless Games to shades of Athens, where plans for a new structure over an old stadium also created grave concerns within the International Olympic Committee when organizers began running behind schedule.

It could be even worse than that, of course, as Canada has shown. A truly botched job -- always something to consider when deadlines get tight and retrofits that involve old buildings are in play -- and we could be a mini-Montreal, rushing through an Olympic roof that had skyrocketing costs and was a disaster. If you don't think things can go wrong on these big projects, just remember that the cost of the convention centre expansion has now almost doubled, closing in on $1 billion.

So, prudence ought to be the order of the day on this key decision. Any day now, Podmore is expected to deliver his recommendations on BC Place's new roof to the provincial cabinet. At the moment, he's under his own dome of silence. But I'm told the government is expecting he'll come up with a way of doing the retractable roof, putting BC Place into the world's top 10 largest indoor-outdoor stadiums.

But Podmore is a careful guy. First, he knows he's got to make sure BC Place has the structural integrity for the load of a new fixed roof, retractable or not. (Most think it has, given how much concrete is in it). And he's also got to ensure if things do go sideways, there's a face-saving contingency plan.

It turns out he's got a few tricks to ensure that ambitious project wouldn't turn from a dream into a nightmare.

When he first floated the idea of the retractable roof a few months ago to the Vancouver Olympic Organizing Committee, Podmore suggested to the insiders that a new roof could be built over the existing one. That would ensure BC Place would be operational during the 18 months or more of construction, allowing B.C. Lions games and trade shows to continue. Then, once the new roof was completed, the old air-suspended dome would come down.

Alarm bells ring on BC Place retractable roof
Probably biggest gamble of 2010 Games racing against clock
Miro Cernetig, Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, April 28, 2008
The benefit of this approach wasn't lost on Olympic organizers. Aside from a revamped stadium that could offer open-air ceremonies for 2010, the Olympic planners also would have a guarantee that any logistical snafus wouldn't turn into an international embarrassment. If construction bogs down, the old roof would still be covering BC Place.

Now a half-complete roof over an ugly old dome isn't quite the image Vancouver or Canada wants to present to billions of TV viewers during the Games. But this, too, could be massaged.

Providing those engineering studies show a new roof is possible -- I'd bet on a yes since, as sport business analyst Tom Mayenknecht told me, German stadium engineers are already in town sussing out how to do the job -- there is nothing stopping Podmore from taking a graduated approach to this. Get the retractable roof plan on track, do the designs, arrange the funding and line up the major contractors. Then, if time proves too short or serious engineering problems are encountered, he could easily order that project be delayed until after the Games. Alternatively, it could be partially completed, leaving a sort of doughnut hole over the field until the Olympics are over.


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Font:****Falling short would be disappointing, but hardly a fiasco. It could even be argued the local economy could use a major infrastructure project after the Olympics, when the economy is likely to cool down.

So if you're making a bet on the newest addition to the Vancouver skyline, I'm told the smart money is on a retractable roof. If David Podmore goes to the provincial cabinet in the next few days with such a plan, odds are he's going to get an immediate message from Premier Campbell: let the Olympic Games re-roofing begin.

Podmore will have about 600 days to get the job done. He will find himself in the first real race of the 2010 Olympics.

Read Miro Cernetig's blog at http://www.vancouversun.com/blogs




© The Vancouver Sun 2008
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glennwith2ns
April 29, 2008, 10:56am Report to Moderator

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You really have no clue what you're talking about.  Mayor Sullivan has nothing to do with BC place because it's a Provincial issue, and the Whitecaps stadium is being held up by the Federally regulated Port Authority.


This guy "clearskies" has a stadium fixation and has been annoying people on many other websites under various nom de plumes (120 db, towerguy3, firstdown45....)among others.

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clearskies
April 29, 2008, 8:10pm Report to Moderator
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PavCo to present retractable roof option to cabinet
Vancouver/CKNW(AM 980)

4/29/2008

A plan to build a retractable roof for BC Place will be presented to Premier Gordon Campbell and his cabinet tomorrow by the BC Pavillion Corporation who runs the stadium.

If cabinet approves the project, PavCo will have to start construction immediately since the opening ceremonies of the 2010 Winter Olympic Games are only 654 days away.

Based on the cost of similar roof refits around the world, the cost of replacement will be at least 250-million dollars.

Construction will have to go around the clock if the new roof is to be completed on time.
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clearskies
May 2, 2008, 4:59pm Report to Moderator
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Jeff Lee says one thing, now Pavco is backtracking...    13 pages of blanked out material in the Report...    Stan Hagen doesn't wanna say anything...

this Government is its own worst enemy

the Stadium is an embarrassment...   the roof looks like a soiled bedsheet...   get on with it!
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FRED
May 2, 2008, 8:49pm Report to Moderator
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Jeff Lee says one thing, now Pavco is backtracking...    13 pages of blanked out material in the Report...    Stan Hagen doesn't wanna say anything...

this Government is its own worst enemy

the Stadium is an embarrassment...   the roof looks like a soiled bedsheet...   get on with it!


Do you have some kind of weird stadium fetish?  
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clearskies
May 14, 2008, 7:53pm Report to Moderator
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Press Conference at BC Place Stadium Friday.

Anyone able to dig up some details?  Might have something to do with the Retractable Roof.

The presser has nothing to do with the BC Lions.
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Karaoke On Wayward Son
May 15, 2008, 4:26am Report to Moderator
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Do you have some kind of weird stadium fetish?  


That quote made my day...
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glennwith2ns
May 15, 2008, 7:10am Report to Moderator

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Do you have some kind of weird stadium fetish?  


Like you wouldn't believe.    

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May 15, 2008, 1:46pm Report to Moderator
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courtesy CKNW Breaking News .. 2.05 pm Thursday May 15th

CKNW has learned that a new, retractable roof will be built on BC Place Stadium.  The Vancouver Whitecaps will try and land a Major League Soccer franchise to be a tenant in the Stadium, along with the BC Lions.  The provincial government will make the announcement tomorrow.
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REDDS
May 16, 2008, 10:45am Report to Moderator
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Courtesy CKNW Breaking News….10:20 am Friday, May 16, 2008

The Premier says there will be a new retractable roof on B.C. Place installed after the Olympics….

Oh yeah….

The reporter also announced the new Vancouver Art Gallery will be built on the water side of the stadium to create sort of a, new cultural centre for the city.

Just what does this station think breaking news is?

An announcement about something we all knew about after they "broke" it 24 hours ago…..

Or…..the fact that a controversial proposal to close the Art Gallery we already have and with $80 million in taxpayers money put up a brand spankin new one on the parking lot just east of the Queen E Theatre is now going to be placed on the site of the condemned Plaza of Nations site?

REDDS


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Gotobreak
May 16, 2008, 1:06pm Report to Moderator

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The Canadian Press

May 16, 2008 at 1:58 PM EDT

VANCOUVER — Premier Gordon Campbell handed out to sports fans and culture buffs Friday, confirming speculation his government will put a new retractable roof on B.C. Place stadium, but will also build a new art gallery.

The new roof won't be on the stadium in time for the opening and closing ceremonies of the 2010 Winter Olympics.

Upgrades to the stadium will occur in two phases, with renovations to the suites, seating, washrooms and concession stands and improvements to the existing roof happening before the Games.

The premier gave no price estimate for renovating B.C. Place, but earlier reports pegged a new retractable roof at $200-million, compared to $20-million to give the stadium a new inflatable roof.

The stadium's air-supported covering collapsed in January, 2007 and has since been repaired.

Mr. Campbell announced the new art gallery will be built near the stadium on False Creek and the Liberal government has already committed $50-million towards its cost.

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