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newsman
May 17, 2012, 5:22am Report to Moderator

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What about the Death Penalty?

In the wake of the 25 year sentence handed down to Michael Rafferty, Sun News Network's Brian Lilley, who opposes the death penalty, is joined by John Robson who argues that Canada should bring back the death penalty.

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bidderdonethat
May 18, 2012, 3:14pm Report to Moderator
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Like so many other laws changed for the sake of political correctness, this is a "motherhood" issue which will likely never see the light of day again in this country.
Per haps what needs to happen is to take a page from other nations in which a "sentence" is a true sentence! If, as in this case, it is a life term, it should be a life term, not 25 years and you get a free pass.
Also I would like to see Canadian judges have the backbone to impose consecutive sentences. In this case there are multiple convictions for crimes which could lead to life terms, the sentences should run consecutively!
But, we (Canadians) are far to polite to even have the balls to do this. We will always think there is good in everyone no matter the crime.
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airadio
May 18, 2012, 6:32pm Report to Moderator
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I've never understood the rationale behind "concurrent" sentences.  

It's like if you get ten red-light tickets, you can pay for all of them one time with the same 170-dollar cheque.  

And, the other one that gobsmacks me is the concept of "two-for-one credit for time served."  Why two for one?  Please, someone, explain.
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bidderdonethat
May 19, 2012, 2:02pm Report to Moderator
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2 for 1 is based on the premiss that you are locked up about 23 hours a day while in remand, unlike prison where you have some yard time every day barring a lock-down.
The Tories recently reduced this to 1 to 11/2 days for time served. Still not good enough for a lot of Canadians who don't believe time in remand should count toward the eventual sentence. The main reason for this is to keep our jails from becoming over crowded and saving money on building new ones, despite the fact new construction means new jobs. More prisons means more guard positions, administration positions, teaching positions and the list goes on!
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May 19, 2012, 8:47pm Report to Moderator
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Two reasons why capital punishment is wrong:

1. By taking a person's life because they took a life makes us no better than the criminal.

2. Newly-available DNA evidence has allowed the exoneration and release of more than 15 death row inmates since 1992 in the United States.
The Death Penalty Information Center in the U.S. has published a list of 8 inmates "executed but possibly innocent". At least 39 executions are claimed to have been carried out in the U.S. in the face of evidence of innocence or serious doubt about guilt.

Now we can add another to these numbers as shown in todays Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/?country=US

Above info from:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/
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bidderdonethat
May 20, 2012, 2:47am Report to Moderator
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I hear what you are saying about innocent people being killed by the state, however in cases with no doubt, non, nada, squat, diddly, zero, for certain crimes, it should be an available option. But, as I said earlier, no one in this country has the balls to bring it forward so, let the sentence be the sentence. Life is life, not 10 years or 25 years, LIFE!
Parole should be reserved for the lowest of the low risk, first time offenders.
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Two reasons why capital punishment is wrong:

1. By taking a person's life because they took a life makes us no better than the criminal.

2. Newly-available DNA evidence has allowed the exoneration and release of more than 15 death row inmates since 1992 in the United States.
The Death Penalty Information Center in the U.S. has published a list of 8 inmates "executed but possibly innocent". At least 39 executions are claimed to have been carried out in the U.S. in the face of evidence of innocence or serious doubt about guilt.

Now we can add another to these numbers as shown in todays Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/?country=US

Above info from:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/


And in reply to that, I have ten words - Willie Pickton, Clifford Olson, Paul Bernardo, Vince Li, Kelly Ellard.


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bidderdonethat
May 20, 2012, 3:49pm Report to Moderator
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Clifford, dead; Vince Li, just granted escorted off site day passes into Selkirk. The board sees him as a patient, not a killer! Eventually he will be back on the street and the way the system is working at warp speed with him, it will be sooner rather than later. As for the others...my point exactly, no dispute; hang em high!
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JustSaying
May 20, 2012, 7:41pm Report to Moderator
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How about Donald Marshall Jr., David Milgaard and Guy Paul Morin?
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bidderdonethat
May 21, 2012, 1:42am Report to Moderator
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Good points to very old cases. With the technology today, there should be far fewer cases of wrongful conviction, but I'm sure it will still happen. So back to my original point, let a sentence be a sentence!
As I said before however, where there is not doubt, pull the cord.
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