I don't know any second city trained PD's. I didn't know Second City was teaching radio now. Since your original point was how bad Up 97.7 is, who would you have hired? Whats your lineup?
BarkerFan. I too am a fan of Bruce. I'm having a GREAT weekend. I feel like Superman exposing the poseurs and hacks. I've been getting tons of PMs telling me that for once, somebody is providing HOPE to young broadcasters, by reinforcing that with hard work and commitment NOT a sense of entitlement, you WILL succeed.
My dear friend dudeslay. Second City does not teach radio. Second City teaches or rather taught, improvisational comedy and skills sets. How much easier is it for me, do you think, as a PD to put together a successful multi person morning show with that knowledge? Sorry, no lineup recommendations, in fact any more from me about UP 977 and I'm gonna have to send Rawlco a bill:)
"And", said another old veteran, "I agree". I agree with positive feedback and all! Let's set aside the spelling, sentence structure, syntax and all the rest of it (remembering of course we 'write for the ear') and KEEP it positive and constructive. Once again, have a good week! ;)
BarkerFan. I must disagree. Spelling, syntax, grammar etc. are key ingredients that need to be mastered in order to become a professional VERBAL communicator. It takes constant attention and vigilance. Writing is so much a part of what we do as verbal communicators. How can you suggest that we not pay attention to this? If your writing skills are poor, I can pretty much guarantee that your oral presentation will be poor as well.
Thanks to those people who had something to say on my behalf! I appreciate it. I will only respond by saying that I was trying to state an opinion and I don't believe I ever commented in a negative way. To be clear, radio veteran I never stated I wanted a major market morning gig. I also did say I would welcome your advice. I believe that meant I would take you up on your offer. I also never said I expected I wouldn't have to work hard to get my break. I have been in a major market, just not in the desired shift. If you actually knew me, you would know I do work very hard and always am willing to take on more than expected to get where I want to be. I am a grown up, I am no in my 40's or 50's as you may be but I'm also not 20 and just out of school. I did nothing but state an opinion and try to do it in a positive way. You are the one who takes the one comment that could have been construed in a negative way and uses it as exactly that for your personal attacks. It seems to me that you may be an angry or bitter person. That is the only negative/attacking comment I will make. I hope that because you are someone who is molding young minds, I am wrong it that assumption. I'm sorry I'm not quite as perfect as you. I can only hope that one day, I will be perfect enough to have the credibility needed to assume one spelling error means I can stomp all over someone I have never met. I apologize for trying to have a point of view that differs from your own. I did agree with you on all but one point and I will apologize for speaking about it, as clearly this is not allowed and upset you greatly.
I wish people would stop discrediting the young(er) people trying to make their way up into the majors. While some clearly don't belong there, my travels have shown an absolute reluctance by many PDs in smaller markets to help get these younger jocks ready to rock and roll. The one comment made reference to a PD who clearly didn't care. I've seen those types of situations happen more often than not. Just myself personally, I received zero airchecks until going to major market folks and asking for feedback from them. The excuses I've heard about not getting those airchecks in smaller markets ranged from the PD having to handle six other stations in the cluster to a PD who was also doing an on-air shift and sales. The guidance is simply not there. I lucked out in finding someone who was finally willing to take me under their wing. Not many are like that though. Just some thoughts.
This thread is unbelievable. RV comes off as such a douche it's a wonder he doesn't already work for Rawlco. They seem like a perfect match. I'm so confused and don't know who to cheer for.
Geez I thought my posts stirred the pot...The only grammar that drives me nuts is when the word "seen" is used in place of "saw", as in "I seen a great movie last night"...hate it. My rule of thumb has always been, never talk down to your listeners. String your thoughts together and put them in a logical order.
Back to some of the original posts on this subject....Yes the jocks on UP seem to be a little young for the demo. I haven't had a chance to listen to the station yet so I will reserve any judgement on their ability to relate to their target demo. One thing I will say is that every station seems to think that their audience is just waiting for them to tweet or facebook them something and are constantly pushing stuff off to their website. I barely have time in my day for my actual friends on facebook and tweeting (to me) is something people with too much time on their hands use. The PD's are telling their jocks that they need to reference the websites at least once an hour. Build up the visits so we can sell space on our homepage. Less clutter on the air...blah..blah..blah. Have you noticed that most of the clutter on air these days is the damn jocks always talking about facebook, tweeting and pushing people to the station website?
Absolutley love a website where you can post YOUR thoughts and opinions, but don't post with YOUR name but rather with an alias....I'm not here to have a personal attack on anyone but do find it kind of cowardly to rip apart announcers, companies, formats and whatever under an alias. I am often entertained by this website and the arrogance of many but today for some reason i feel more annoyed than entertained. Seriously, if your close mindedness has you so sure your opinion is the only correct opinion and that you have all the answers to save radio and a station as a "radio veteran" then attach your name to your posting. I hope my english, spelling, grammar and sentence structure is GOODER enough that I don't get ripped for it................hmmmm i guess that does kinda come off as a personal attack, weird!
Second City .. teach[es] .. improvisational comedy and skills sets
And we ALL KNOW that Comedy these days has NO PLACE on the radio airwaves!! It's all about LINERS, people!! Plug the contest, backsell Duffy and turn in your time card. Stacking blankets at a homeless shelter is, at least, still an outlet for exercising SOME creativity in your vocation!
Wow. Morning guy on UP 97.7 sounds like he is 12. Listened for a couple of hours, not one mention of the Calgary community. Focus groups always say: "The announcers talk too much." What they REALLY mean is: The announcer is talking about things I don't care about. Lots of chatter about personal attacks and self righteous opinions. Hey, I didn't invent this stuff, I had a couple of great mentors who made me promise to "pass it on." The reality is, all of the things I've been writing about success and how to achieve it are real and factual, NOT my OPINION! There is no debate or discussion about it. Either you do the work or you are destined to mediocrity like so many here who can't or won't get it!
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