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michael9
November 6, 2008, 9:54am Report to Moderator
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Obama Man.
Great for America that time has changed for "colored" peoples. I hope this reference of the first black man will fade in days to come. The first time I heard him speak was over two years ago. His charismatic character shined through and grabbed my soul he got my attention. I new at that point he was a leader. He is intelligent, insightful, honest, hip, proper, insightful just to name a few traits. A new day to remove the stigma against a country hated throughout the world. A people leader who can motivate his country to see a future. So I ask that you no longer call him the first colored President as it's now old news. Our leader Harper is an arrogant man who has yet to reach out to the Obama man.
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Obama Man.
Great for America that time has changed for "colored" peoples. I hope this reference of the first black man will fade in days to come. The first time I heard him speak was over two years ago. His charismatic character shined through and grabbed my soul he got my attention. I new at that point he was a leader. He is intelligent, insightful, honest, hip, proper, insightful just to name a few traits. A new day to remove the stigma against a country hated throughout the world. A people leader who can motivate his country to see a future. So I ask that you no longer call him the first colored President as it's now old news. Our leader Harper is an arrogant man who has yet to reach out to the Obama man.

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Let's keep our fingers crossed...and yes I think great things are in the future for the US under Obama's Leadership.  :)
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GrannyTheRube
November 6, 2008, 7:26pm Report to Moderator
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ok boys and girls it's time for a cartoon of the mind...visualize this.  It's 'W' sitting in the oval office, feet up on the desk and a bubble image is above his head and in it is a Washington D.C.tour guide saying to a group...."And over there is the brand new George W. Bush monument".
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karma kazi
November 7, 2008, 7:05am Report to Moderator
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Obama won simply because of the hatred towards the Bush administration.  

Nothing will change with Obama,.  His charisima and colour captured enough votes of those that know nothing about his platform.  He will never live up to the expectations he has brought to the world.  

Interestingly, despite the poor repulican reputation, economy woes, and McCain errors, Obama only had something 52% of the popular vote vs 48% for McCain.

Despite all his talk about "change", Obama goes ahead today and apoints one of Bill Clinton's long time advisors as the new Chief of Staff

Don't get yours hopes to high.....he is just another politician
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GrannyTheRube
November 7, 2008, 6:18pm Report to Moderator
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Karma should do a little math about popular vote...Bush lost the popular vote to Gore but thanks to the biggest bumble in American history...Florida...he slid his slimy self into office...and also before coming down on a former Clinton advisor here's some numbers for you to crunch. Clinton inherited a 290 billion dollar deficit from George Sr. in 1992...when he left 8 years later there was a 230 billion surplus...the largest in US history...George W. managed to convert that record surplus into a 10 trillion, 573 billion, 858 million debt in 8 years.  Can't see any US citizen with any kind of brains not seeing that...mind you they DID elect W for a second term...so I guess they deserve the mess they're in. McCain has more class in his ass than W has in his whole body...If McCain had got the GOP nomination back in 2000 and either he or Gore would have won...the good ole' US of A...would be in a much better economic condition. US citizens may be able to hike around Europe with a US flag on their backpacks and there probably never would have been a 9/11...McCain's concession speech on election night was one of the classiest I've ever heard...he was a total gentleman, humble and genuine. The guy is about as sincere an individual as they come but had three major flaws...he just happened to be aligned with the most incompetent President in US history...had nothing but negative things to say about Obama and nothing positive about any platform he had...and picked a skirt for the female vote...Palin on the ticket was like a fish in a bowling alley. The Republicans can forget about 2012...time to look at 2016. Palin may not even be a Govenor then...and if she thinks she'll get the Presidential nod in '16 because of her 15 minutes of fame this year...she's dreaming.   Arnold would be their best bet if the powers that be can remove some archaic laws regarding place of birth limitations. Obama isn't going to be able to turn the 'Bush Express to Hell' around in one term but he'll definately give Americans something positive to look forward to...it will come around...you don't dig yourself out of a crater that huge, that soon.
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GS850
November 7, 2008, 6:32pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from karma kazi
Obama won simply because of the hatred towards the Bush administration.  

Nothing will change with Obama,.  His charisima and colour captured enough votes of those that know nothing about his platform.  He will never live up to the expectations he has brought to the world.  

Interestingly, despite the poor repulican reputation, economy woes, and McCain errors, Obama only had something 52% of the popular vote vs 48% for McCain.

Despite all his talk about "change", Obama goes ahead today and apoints one of Bill Clinton's long time advisors as the new Chief of Staff

Don't get yours hopes to high.....he is just another politician



You sound like a bitter Republican to me.
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hrs
November 7, 2008, 10:04pm Report to Moderator
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People who believe Obama will bring change are kidding them self's and they need to wake up. He's no different then Bush, McCain, Cilnton, expect hes black. Just another puppet getting his strings pulled, Bush proved that the president is just another puppet. I'm not a Rep, Dem, Liberal, Conservative... I'm a person who doesn't buy in to the left and right bs.
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formerly_bobinedmonton
November 7, 2008, 11:16pm Report to Moderator

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Obamanation is more like it.  I predict he will be the WORST president ever.
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freqfreak2
November 8, 2008, 3:24am Report to Moderator
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I predict he will be the WORST president ever.


Sorry, award taken. See 2000-2008.

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Earlyriser
November 8, 2008, 5:30am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from GS850



You sound like a bitter Republican to me.


As opposed to all those slap-happy Republicans we hear so much about...
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OnFrigidAir
November 8, 2008, 3:44pm Report to Moderator
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Hey folks, who knows...but when did a winning presidential candidate ever escort his whole family  off the stage before his acceptance speech? That action alone was VERY... creepy.
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GrannyTheRube
November 8, 2008, 3:56pm Report to Moderator
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freqfreak2 is absolutely right...there can only be one worst President in US history and W worked 8 long hard years to attain that...don't take that distinction away from him...it's his legacy...
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Joe Capitano
November 8, 2008, 6:35pm Report to Moderator
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I can see you are a hate-filled Granny, but you really don't know much about American history, do you?! Harding is still firmly the worst president in history, with Buchanan right up there, too. And how about Fillmore?
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Radiolurker
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Granny, are you confusing deficits with debts? When Clinton took office the debt was at 3.9 trillion. When he left 8 years later it stood at 5.2 trillion. This spiral continued under George W. and  2 months ago surpassed the  10 trillion mark. I will grant you that Clinton did leave office with a budget surplus but the debt kept growing.
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GrannyTheRube
November 8, 2008, 7:32pm Report to Moderator
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I'm not hate filled...'W' earned his place in modern day American political history...I'm sure he will go down in his mind as one of the great leaders of our time...as far as Harding...up to this administration you are right....
Most historians regard Harding as the worst President in the nation's history. In the end, it was not his corrupt friends, but rather, Harding's own lack of vision that was most responsible for the tarnished legacy.
'W' had a huge mountain to climb to overtake Harding...but he was more than up to the task....
You want to talk hate filled...did you not hear any of McCain's or his purse puppet Palin's hack job on the current administration?  You should be listening to your candidate's closer ally...they fried Bush. Incidentally McCain's concession speech was absolute class...if he got the GOP nod in 2000 and managed to beat Gore...things would have been a whole lot better for America...because they really couldn't get any worse. Open yo eyes Ally m'man....take off the party line blinders.
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Joe Capitano
November 8, 2008, 8:30pm Report to Moderator
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"My" party, and "my" candidate?  Sorry Granny, I'm just an interested observer typing from Victoria BC Canada. You will have to pick fights with somebody else, I'm afraid.
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gretzkytokurri
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As one of Clinton's old cronies said after the election.  "This was an election where the loser won".  

The US is so much in the financial tank without including the upcoming Car Loan crisis and Credit Card crisis that any President (even if they are a Messiah) will not be able to fix things.  

This doesn't even start considering what kind of wacko happenings he gets sideswiped with from the Middle East.  Giving good teleprompter does not get any points in countries that are living a couple of hundred years before the device was invented.
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GrannyTheRube
November 10, 2008, 5:52pm Report to Moderator
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Not picking any fights at all alley...however you do have remarkably similar comments from the party hard liners who really do have the blinders on.  I too am from British Columbia who has a lot of younger friends in Washington State... last Summer a group of them wanted to tour Europe...they spent their last 2 weeks before leaving learning all about British Columbia...why?...glad you asked...because they were too afraid to wear a US patch on their backpacks and were wearing a Canadian flag...they needed to know enough about our province to get them by in case they bump into friendly Europeans who want to talk about Canada. Kinda hypocritical...yeah...but it sure beats going home in a box. The US has the worst reputation abroad...and it goes back quite a few years magnified by George Sr.'s bungle in the Middle East. Clinton tried to smooth things out but it's like tring to give a haircut to a bear. Then W came in and it was "OK daddy...it's my turn to go in and finish off what you couldn't...watch this". I minored in American History in University and have studied the political climate a bit more than most. It is very complex and once the wheels starting falling off and the frame began digging in the dirt...the country didn't need George W there to keep pushing it deeper into the ground. Obama is the breath of fresh air the Americans need right now...can he walk on water and fix it in 2 terms...probably not. Will he give Americans hope for the future...probably will.
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OnFrigidAir
November 11, 2008, 1:11am Report to Moderator
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While I agree with most of what you say Granny, I have to say America has NEVER been looked upon with anything but envy since forever. The Ugly American goes back much further than George Sr.
Before Vietnam, before Korea, hell even the Brits used to grouse "they're over-paid,over-sexed, and over-here!" It's an unadmitted contempt for democracy. The U.S. is the world's most successful democracy.Intelectuals--especially in Europe--find this embittering. They know they must genuflect to democracy as a system. They cannot openly admit that an entire people--especially one comprising nearly 300 million, who enjoy all the freedoms--can be mistaken. This cultural racism is particularly directed at the supposedly "know-nothing" President George W. Bush and his "gung ho" Texas background. The European intelligentsia gets its notion of America chiefly from Hollywood, TV soaps, and fiction.
It's ant-Americanism.  Anyone espousing such absurd, contradictory, racist, crude,opinion of any other country would be severly critizised for it.  But no, not America. Bring it on!  It is based on the powerful but irrational impulse of envy--an envy of American wealth, power, success and determination. It is an envy made all the more poisonous because of a fearful European conviction is that, the economic crisis notwithstanding, America's strength is rising while Europe's is falling.


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Joe Capitano
November 11, 2008, 1:48am Report to Moderator
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Tourists in Europe identified as Americans come "home in a box?" Really? What is the current, verified death toll of US vacationers who were slain by Europeans? Quit making stuff up. And your summary of recent history is very simplistic. The trouble with you hard liners (on both sides) is that you know all the answers before anybody asks the question.
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karma kazi
November 12, 2008, 8:31am Report to Moderator
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" last Summer a group of them wanted to tour Europe...they spent their last 2 weeks before leaving learning all about British Columbia...why?...glad you asked...because they were too afraid to wear a US patch on their backpacks and were wearing a Canadian flag...they needed to know enough about our province to get them by in case they bump into friendly Europeans who want to talk about Canada. Kinda hypocritical...yeah...but it sure beats going home in a box. "

what a bunch of b.s., most Europeans don't bother to differentiate between Canada and the US. For most of them, they look at Canada and US as one ie "Americans" as we are all from America.  In fact, if they do know anything about Canada, it usually the negative headlines that make it oversees like Pickton and the Bus Beheading. ...

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karma kazi
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" last Summer a group of them wanted to tour Europe...they spent their last 2 weeks before leaving learning all about British Columbia...why?...glad you asked...because they were too afraid to wear a US patch on their backpacks and were wearing a Canadian flag...they needed to know enough about our province to get them by in case they bump into friendly Europeans who want to talk about Canada. Kinda hypocritical...yeah...but it sure beats going home in a box. "

what a bunch of b.s., most Europeans don't bother to differentiate between Canada and the US. For most of them, they look at Canada and US as one ie "Americans" as we are all from America.  In fact, if they do know anything about Canada, it usually the negative headlines that make it oversees like Pickton and the Bus Beheading. ...

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GrannyTheRube
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Obviously karma you haven't backpacked across Europe with an American flag patch on your backpack. You might want to ask somebody who has before you generalize about Canadians and Americans in the eyes of Europeans....but then again you ARE a maximum member...and I,of course, am a baby member.
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karma kazi
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"In fact, if they do know anything about Canada, it usually the negative headlines that make it oversees like Pickton and the Bus Beheading."

oh, I forgot about the severed feet, another example of the kind of Canadian headlines that go worldwide.....

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/12/canada.feet.mystery/index.html
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